Joint Area Missile Shield Network

There are other issues with which we are concerned for the moment.

However, we will provide funding in the near future.

"The World Union abandoned Sibaristan when we had a clear obligation to aid them. We are not fit to pass judgment on their subsequent actions."

(will those that disobeyed the charter be punnished?)

Rotaretilbo wrote:"The World Union abandoned Sibaristan when we had a clear obligation to aid them. We are not fit to pass judgment on their subsequent actions."

That does not give them permission to use nuclear warheads! Germany itself outlined a proper system for requesting WMD use. If they actually did follow that course, the World Union would have almost definitely denied the request, but it would have resulted in far more military aid.

Either way, Sibaristan is wrong to use nuclear weapons. Again, this is why we need JAMSNET. Come on, guys.

"Can JAMSNET turn back time and stop the nuclear attacks from happening in the first place? I don't think so. So I believe our resources would be better spent dealing with the fallout, both political and nuclear, of this disaster than in funding JAMSNET."

"no but it can stop future attacks"

"We all knew the inevitible conclusion of our abandonment of Sibaristan. They said in no uncertain terms what would happen if we abandoned them. Condemning their use of WMDs is just as amoral as commending them. The German Empire regrets that it happened, but passes no judgment here."

tiny tim wrote:"Can JAMSNET turn back time and stop the nuclear attacks from happening in the first place? I don't think so. So I believe our resources would be better spent dealing with the fallout, both political and nuclear, of this disaster than in funding JAMSNET."

Stop with the games. The goal is not to stop Sibaristan, the goal is to stop future abuse of nuclear warheads!

Rotaretilbo wrote:"We all knew the inevitible conclusion of our abandonment of Sibaristan. They said in no uncertain terms what would happen if we abandoned them. Condemning their use of WMDs is just as amoral as commending them. The German Empire regrets that it happened, but passes no judgment here."

You're a hypocrite if you believe Sibaristan is justified in their decision to revert to nuclear weapons. Germany just doesn't want to admit that JAMSNET is a good idea because it wasn't Germany's idea.

The representative of Sibaristan says, "it was the obligation of all World Union nations to provide military support for us against Manchuria. Nearly every nation in this organization said 'to hell with the charter' when they abandoned us to our enemies! You cannot enforce only the sections of the charter convenient for you and then turn around and villianize us for defending ourselves because the charter decries use of nuclear weapons. The National United Confederate Army is two-faced, using our desperation as a method to gain support for their expensive JAMSNET program."
He then adds, "And why the hell is United Utopian States even talking here? Last I checked, they are not members of this organization!!"

"it was said multiple times that all nations have the right to represent in the WORLD UNION, the UUS just does not get to vote"

"I have to agree with the UUS on this. It was stated over and over that every nation has a right to speak here. Otherwise, what kind of World Union would it be?"

BBJynne wrote:The representative of Sibaristan says, "it was the obligation of all World Union nations to provide military support for us against Manchuria. Nearly every nation in this organization said 'to hell with the charter' when they abandoned us to our enemies! You cannot enforce only the sections of the charter convenient for you and then turn around and villianize us for defending ourselves because the charter decries use of nuclear weapons. The National United Confederate Army is two-faced, using our desperation as a method to gain support for their expensive JAMSNET program."

"The same clause that Sibaristan is referring to also says 'It is up to the World Union to determine how much military support each member can be reasonably expected to send.' Our nation has had significant issues within our own region and was not aware of the significance of the situation in Sibaristan. You cannot expect a single, simple request for troops to evoke urgent action from every World Union nation, especially ones that are on the other side of the planet. Unfortunately, the help that you say you need may have actually been given a while ago had you gone through the proper procedure for using nuclear weapons or at least shared some detailed information with the World Union.

"You claim that our own nation is two-faced, yet you have shown no appreciation of the simple code by which our nations are supposed to interact. You cannot use nuclear missiles in a situation that has not demonstrated clear necessity and expect to not be challenged."

"A simple request? The German Empire as varitably been begging for support and stressing the extremeness of the situation since before the invasion! Sibaristan's entire military was virtually destroyed in the first days of the invasion. There can be no doubt that the situation was most dire."

"Again, a request for the use of nuclear weapons would certainly turn a few heads. The Brazilian Confederacy would be more than willing to assist in the conflict, provided there is a plan to effectively fight back. Independent fighting against a united nation of Manchuria's size will not be effective, and while we are interested in helping, we are not going to allow our men to be slaughtered."

"We may have acted earlier if we were presented with actual information, rather than a plea amongst a sea of conflicts."

"If we go back in the logs, I believe a statement of Sibaristan's intent to use nuclear force should it be abandoned was made at least once. Moreover, the German Empire has repeatedly asked for cooperation, for coordination. We cannot formulate a plan of attack when we do not have a force to do so with, and we will not discuss battle tactics in an open forum."

"I think it would only be appropriate, then, for Sibaristan to release some actual information regarding the situation (including details on the opposition) and propose a basic plan of defense.

"Also, I have heard tail that some nations who currently have WMDs are in opposition to JAMSNET. If you have a reason to use WMDs, you already have to get permission a-la the World Union Charter. This would not change that situation; JAMSNET would not prevent you from using your own WMDs if necessary, but it would prevent your enemies from using WMDs against you. Even if you have WMDs, JAMSNET is a great asset."

"The UUS is proud to say that it is donating a considerable ammount, a 9th (100PP) to fund the Joint Area Missile Shield Network, but dates the check on the 20th of june"

"The only real vocal opponents of JAMSNET have been members of the EU and GLC. To my knowledge, none of these nations have weapons of mass destruction of any kind, let alone the sort that would utilize a ballistic missile, intercontinental or otherwise."

"The nations I am referring to have not yet vocalized their opposition."

((NPCs))

"UPSA will begin donating PP tomorrow."

((A little NPC input is welcome >.>))

Baconsen wrote:"UPSA will begin donating PP tomorrow."

"it is now the 16th, 2 days later than promised money"

(there is nothing else to post on...)

"THE UUS DONEATES 20PP!"

"Uhh.... thank you UUS. You have just demonstrated that you are one of the few nations who actually CARE about the safety of this world. God bless you.





"...and may he zap the rest of you with his lightning gun..."

[You know, I'm curious. It was never actually stated what the final rendition of JAMSNET would be. Does the 900PP cost include the magical chemical/biological detector? How effectively can this model identify, locate, target, and shoot down short-range low-flying cruise missiles in a very limited window? Are we still going to shoot down all missiles unless a nation asks permission? Are we going to allow all missiles through if a nation asks permission without any verification or investigation process? How exactly will JAMSNET be controlled and maintained?]